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2015 Aug 11
Tue: |
| 19:17 |
< | dtype | | > |
new NAO is lucky! |
| 19:17 |
< | jballanc | | > |
and how! |
| 19:17 |
< | FIQ | | > |
new NAO rng is evil |
| 19:17 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
so migration is over, eh? |
| 19:24 |
< | Demo | | > |
cant remember anymore, can sokoban come before the oracle? |
| 19:25 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
after |
| 19:25 |
< | FIQ | | > |
evil patch idea: give Kaen a guranteed wand of teleportation |
| 19:25 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
very next level, in fact |
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2015 Aug 12
Wed: |
| 13:15 |
< | kerio | | > |
the fuck is pentadactyl |
| 13:15 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Oh, wait, does it specify only some of the colors? |
| 13:15 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Specifying only some of the colors is evil. |
| 13:15 |
< | kerio | | > |
jonadab: it specifies no colors |
| 15:04 |
< | stenno | | > |
Kappa |
| 15:04 |
< | FIQ | | > |
fair enough |
| 15:04 |
< | FIQ | | > |
YASI: dwarves drink any potions of booze they find |
| 15:05 |
< | Demo | | > |
I am dwarvish |
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2015 Aug 13
Thu: |
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| 11:31 |
< | Tachoh | | > |
ais523: your ring finger is your only finger if you only have 1 finger |
| 11:31 |
< | Wooble | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: you can put a second ring on either hand, but both rings and your hand explode. |
| 11:31 |
< | Tachoh | | > |
since that's the finger that rings would go on |
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| 11:39 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: whenever you put on a ring, the game asks you which of your ten fingers to put it on. You can wear rings on all ten fingers. But they only /do/ anything on the ring fingers. |
| 11:39 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea, Expanded: which finger on each hand is the correct finger for rings is randomized each game. |
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| 11:41 |
< | Rodney | | > |
stepvhen (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 181 points, T:845, killed by a boulder |
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2015 Aug 25
Tue: |
| 21:38 |
< | ais523 | | > |
is it meant to be a full reset, or to just fix the immediate problem, or somewhere in between? |
| 21:39 |
< | ais523 | | > |
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon's lifesaving is a full reset and this is highly important to the game's strategy |
| 21:39 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: life saving resets you to your starting attribute values, including experience and max HP. |
| 21:39 |
< | Menche | | > |
woo, 120 updates |
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2015 Aug 26
Wed: |
| 21:29 |
< | Rodney | | > |
rhe7 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 502 points, T:1701, killed by Mr. Annootok, the shopkeeper |
| 21:30 |
< | zomgreg | | > |
well, in this case I'm guaranteed the Heart so long as I can complete the quest! |
| 21:32 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: put a river of lava across the middle of the Barbarian quest locate level. |
| 21:33 |
< | Rodney | | > |
rhe7 (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 32 points, T:246, poisoned by a rotted fox corpse |
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2015 Aug 27
Thu: |
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| 02:08 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Ashana (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1351 points, T:1135, killed by a dwarf |
| 02:12 |
< | Menche | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: hurting a shopkeeper's mimic angers the shopkeeper |
| 02:12 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
mmm |
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| 02:37 |
< | greywolf | | > |
Menche: re: EPI: ...but only as long as the mimic is inside the shop. |
| 02:37 |
< | Menche | | > |
meh, fair enough |
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2015 Aug 31
Mon: |
| 04:20 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
went barefoot from then on, eh? |
| 04:21 |
< | Mandevil | | > |
CuriousShadow: No, but still. |
| 04:21 |
< | FIQ | | > |
evil patch idea: learn monsters how to work-around E |
| 04:21 |
< | Mandevil | | > |
CuriousShadow: In a game where you get 3 wishes and that's all every little bit counts. |
| 06:16 |
< | Mandevil | | > |
Vorpal jabberwock. |
| 06:19 |
< | Mandevil | | > |
T:28661 A cloud of gas puts you to sleep! ... wtf? I have sleep res! |
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| 06:19 |
< | Mandevil | | > |
Hm. |
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2015 Sep 01
Tue: |
| 01:20 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Vithos (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 38580 points, T:12708, killed by Juiblex |
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| 01:21 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: whenever you use a resistance (i.e., when it blocks something from happening to you), there is one chance in ten that you use it up and are no longer resistant. |
| 01:21 |
< | greywolf | | > |
There is something in the kill code that makes it less likely to generate a corpse near an altar, I am certain. |
| 01:22 |
< | Rodney | | > |
https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Fishumz&go=1 |
| 01:22 |
< | attie | | > |
:P |
| 01:22 |
< | jonadab | | > |
greywolf: Evil Patch Idea: all versions of Minetown shall now be considered graveyard levels. |
| 01:22 |
< | Fishumz | | > |
ICWUTUDID |
| 01:30 |
< | greywolf | | > |
CoMR comes pretty close, though. |
| 01:30 |
< | greywolf | | > |
(or GDSM) |
| 01:30 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: a lizard corpse only saves you from stoning if you eat the whole thing in one go. |
| 01:30 |
< | greywolf | | > |
nice. /SM |
| 01:31 |
< | Fishumz | | > |
Vampire or Flayer |
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| 01:31 |
< | greywolf | | > |
Evil patch idea: Any player named "jonadab" instantly polymorphs, shudders, and dies. |
| 01:31 |
< | Fishumz | | > |
Lol |
| 16:32 |
< | raisse | | > |
so I'm running into monsters' fire bolts as if there's no tomorrow |
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| 16:33 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: each color of DSM grants its normal positive extrinsic but also a negative extrinsic (fumbling, restful sleep, aggravate monster, etc.) Which negative goes with which color is randomized at game start. |
| 16:34 |
< | Jubilex | | > |
Or you could make it as a incentive to use the worse DSMs |
| 16:38 |
< | ais523 | | > |
I guess you could add things like stormbringeritis |
| 16:38 |
< | ObsequiousNewt_ | | > |
ouch |
| 16:38 |
< | ais523 | | > |
although in the Evil Variant that's probably just turned on constantly |
| 16:38 |
< | raisse | | > |
ais523: fumbling, sleep, aggravate monster, conflict, teleportitis, polymorphitis. |
| 16:41 |
< | jonadab | | > |
My first guess would be, it's special-cased. |
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| 16:42 |
< | greywolf | | > |
That is definitely an evil patch idea. I think the side effects should be negatable via blessing, myself. |
| 16:42 |
< | ais523 | | > |
raisse: there are definitely games where I'd be happy to have intrinsic conflict from the start |
| 16:53 |
< | FIQ | | > |
haha |
| 16:54 |
< | ais523 | | > |
raisse: maybe they're different shapes |
| 16:54 |
< | FIQ | | > |
YASI: monsters denoted with colors get their colors stripped if you're blind |
| 16:54 |
< | raisse | | > |
ph right |
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2015 Sep 03
Thu: |
| 03:13 |
< | Fishumz | | > |
Chance on apply: Inflict poison damage. |
| 03:14 |
< | Rodney | | > |
lowhope (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 hawaiian shirt", on turn 18275 |
| 03:14 |
< | ChrisS67 | | > |
sounds like an evil patch idea |
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| 11:38 |
< | FIQ | | > |
it's actually a trap in NitroHack |
| 11:38 |
< | FIQ | | > |
the trembling things is from Un |
| 11:39 |
< | Wooble | | > |
evil patch idea: VS moves around |
| 11:40 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Wooble: Haha. I kind of like that. |
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2015 Sep 04
Fri: |
| 17:35 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Gorgash (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 4462 points, T:3818, killed by Mr. Cahersiveen, the shopkeeper |
| 17:35 |
< | Rodney | | > |
floppyslayer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 172 points, T:1036, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food |
| 17:35 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: a monster attack that increases the weight of each of the items in your inventory -- recursively including the contents of containers. |
| 17:36 |
< | ais523 | | > |
jonadab: ooh, that actually works with the secret truth behind the Evil Variant, too |
| 17:36 |
< | ais523 | | > |
(which isn't generally known because it's secret, and which is secret for reasons that are also secret) |
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2015 Sep 05
Sat: |
| 09:38 |
< | jonadab | | > |
I think it may also matter whether you are wearing gloves. |
| 09:38 |
< | Rodney | | > |
fusentrap (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 644 points, T:714, killed by a rabid rat |
| 09:39 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: new random appearance for gloves, fingerless gloves. If the gloves you are wearing are fingerless, they don't protect you from stoning when picking up a trice corpse. |
| 09:39 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
Yeti218: Yes, that is what I am saying. When you are blind and not wearing gloves. And I did wiztest it. |
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2015 Sep 07
Mon: |
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| 21:35 |
< | oh6 | | > |
object identification might be avoided by having very many more appearances than are actually used, and shuffling in new appearances for forgotten objects, but oof |
| 21:35 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
Okay, but you might have distinctive numbers of things in your inventory and/or stashes. |
| 21:36 |
< | oh6 | | > |
yeah, that was my next thought |
| 21:36 |
< | oh6 | | > |
I can think of a variation that might make sense, but wow it would be evil |
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2015 Sep 11
Fri: |
| 14:24 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
Because Juiblex is not a soldier or watchman. |
| 14:25 |
< | Rodney | | > |
blueseph (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3004 points, T:1921, killed by a dwarf |
| 14:25 |
< | Wooble | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: Juiblex is a watchman |
| 14:27 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Joewe27 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 174 points, T:1405, died of starvation |
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| 14:28 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: killing Juiblex counts as murder, even if he's hostile. |
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2015 Sep 13
Sun: |
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| 17:13 |
< | Yeti218 | | > |
Lol is the biggest esports game there is right? Not sure if there are tournaments that big though |
| 17:13 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
maybe the wand is evil |
| 17:14 |
< | kerio | | > |
Yeti218: well, ASSFAGGOTS can be quite micro intensive |
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2015 Sep 15
Tue: |
| 16:01 |
< | raisse | | > |
bhaak: yes |
| 16:01 |
< | raisse | | > |
I think |
| 16:01 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: a trap that makes you deathly ill. |
| 16:01 |
< | bhaak | | > |
really sounds like a predecessor to slashem :) |
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2015 Sep 18
Fri: |
| 20:47 |
< | Phnogg | | > |
ah ok, I figured that would be the difference |
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| 20:52 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: the invocation can only be performed if all seven of the candles attached to the candelabrum are blessed wax candles, each with a different amount of wax remaining. |
| 20:52 |
< | jonadab | | > |
They must be attached in order, longest (least-used) first. |
| 20:59 |
< | Phnogg | | > |
wait so tallow candles won't actually work? |
| 21:01 |
< | Phnogg | | > |
wiki says, "You can mix different candle types on the Candelabrum. " |
| 21:01 |
< | ishanyx | | > |
that was an Evil Variant idea, it works fine in vanilla |
| 21:01 |
< | Phnogg | | > |
oh oh ok |
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2015 Sep 19
Sat: |
| 14:29 |
< | CuriousShadow | | > |
oh ho |
| 14:30 |
< | Rodney | | > |
chefbeardy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 126 points, T:714, killed by a newt |
| 14:30 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: Spellbook of Fumbling. This spell is never assigned a spell letter; but if you know it, attempting to cast any other spell has a 1-in-spells-known chance of being fumbling instead: this gives you 5d50 (more) turns of temporary fumbling. |
| 14:31 |
< | murphy_ | | > |
ouch |
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2015 Sep 22
Tue: |
| 08:18 |
< | Rodney | | > |
lombard (Rog Orc Mal Cha) averted death, on turn 32181 |
| 08:20 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Mushroomi (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on turn 17160 |
| 08:24 |
< | Wooble | | > |
Mandevil: Evil Patch: sometimes it's your own species. |
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| 08:34 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
That ends up looking not so much like an Evil Patch as a Slight Inconvenience On Starting The Game Patch. |
| 08:34 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
I doubt players would respect that sort of ending when tracking their streaks. |
| 08:38 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
Yes... |
| 08:38 |
< | Wooble | | > |
Nehpets: sure. |
| 08:38 |
< | ChrisE | | > |
I guess the real outcome from this, or indeed most, 'Evil Patch Idea' would be that people probably wouldn't play it. |
| 08:43 |
< | Wooble | | > |
people apparently play slashem extended... |
| 08:44 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Mushroomi (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on turn 17972 |
| 08:44 |
< | ais523 | | > |
Wooble: one of the main reasons that I don't work on the Evil Variant any more is that I got outcompeted :-( |
| 08:45 |
< | Wooble | | > |
find a way to make variant creation into a nomic. I'm sure it could get much more insane and evil that way. |
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2015 Sep 24
Thu: |
| 08:55 |
< | Grasshopper | | > |
maybe if I zap speed at this long worm it'll get to my altar faster |
| 08:56 |
< | FIQ | | > |
lol |
| 08:57 |
< | Grasshopper | | > |
ok last cursed create monster ... unless I create some more (evil idea!) |
| 08:57 |
< | Rodney | | > |
Tedankhamen (Val Dwa Fem Law), 112 points, T:239, killed by a winged gargoyle |
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2015 Sep 26
Sat: |
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| 18:41 |
< | dograt | | > |
stenno: like first nethack game played? |
| 18:41 |
< | ais523 | | > |
jonadab: it's not hard compared to the Evil Variant either |
| 18:41 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Heh. |
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2015 Sep 27
Sun: |
| 10:29 |
< | inari | | > |
just Evil |
| 10:29 |
< | inari | | > |
make yourself known, or I kill your cat |
| 10:30 |
< | Nehpets | | > |
that cat is evil, id kill it if i were you |
| 10:30 |
< | inari | | > |
Evil is mine now |
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2015 Oct 01
Thu: |
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| 07:42 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: weremonsters can infect other monsters with lycanthropy. |
| 07:42 |
< | raisse | | > |
"The kobold looks feverish. The kobold turns into a werejackal!" |
| 09:01 |
< | raisse | | > |
ad |
| 09:02 |
< | inari | | > |
I’ve got nothing really, well, cursed ring of levitation |
| 09:02 |
< | ais523 | | > |
Evil Variant: chickatrice corpses are sometimes described as "food ration" |
| 09:02 |
< | Grasshopper__ | | > |
oh lots of junk and some scrolls and potions n stuff |
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2015 Oct 03
Sat: |
| 08:57 |
< | Erisian_Vagabond | | > |
That being, you shouldn't leave the dungeon as a mortal- ascend to demigod status, or (descend?) to dead |
| 08:57 |
< | FIQ | | > |
I always imagined quitting as an user interface method of "suicide" |
| 08:57 |
< | jonadab | | > |
Evil Patch Idea: if you pick up anything that isn't strictly required to win the game, "You have touched the forbidden treasure! Now you will never again see the light of day!", and the floor starts turning to lava. |
| 08:57 |
< | Rodney | | > |
ubiquity (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on turn 354 |